Nov 20, 2025 3-5pm ET
Thursday on The Robert Scott Bell Show:
Hour 1
Special Guest: Jonathan Emord
In this Sacred Fire of Liberty hour, I sit down with my good friend, the FDA Dragon Slayer himself, Jonathan Emord, to dig into the latest battles for health freedom. We open by talking about his role judging a Georgetown moot court competition and the importance of real debate in a world increasingly hostile to honest legal argument. From there, we dive straight into the global landscape of tyranny and why Americans must stay strong, vigilant, and well armed if they hope to avoid the fate of nations that disarmed and fell prey to their own governments. It’s classic Emord: history, principle, and sharp clarity.
We then pivot into the big updates on the Alliance for Natural Health’s legal fights, including the homeopathy lawsuit hitting a major moment as the FDA files its cross motion for summary judgment. Jonathan walks us through Rob Verkerk’s scientific dismantling of the FDA’s false claims about homeopathic product safety, exposing how the agency used outlier cases and misbranded products to paint an entire system as unsafe. We also explore ANH’s push to expand allowable structural function claims so the public can finally learn what nutrients actually do for key markers like cholesterol, blood sugar, and blood pressure. This is the information revolution Big Pharma fears most.
From there, we widen the lens to the broader medical and political landscape: the failure of Obamacare economics, the dangers of expanding subsidies to illegal immigrants, the AMA’s monopoly over reimbursement codes, and the desperate need to open the health marketplace to lower cost, safer, more effective alternatives. Jonathan lays out the strategy: companies in the natural health space must join the ANH corporate leadership circle now, before this rare window of opportunity closes. We wrap with stories about homeopathy in action, the need for genuine freedom of choice in healing, and even a joyful moment celebrating our kids and the values we hope to pass on. It’s a wide ranging, powerful conversation on liberty, law, health, and the urgency of this moment.
For the past 37 years, Jonathan W. Emord has litigated against the federal bureaucracy, winning over and over again. Ron Paul calls Jonathan “an expert in constitutional theory and history” and “an expert litigator with a long string of legal victories over the federal bureaucracy.” George Noory calls him “a Knight in Shining Armor” and “a warrior out to save our rights.” Congressmen Dan Burton and John Doolittle describe him as “an intellectual warrior for the rights and freedoms of people in America.” Jonathan has a unique, detailed knowledge of the federal bureaucracy, the deep state. He knows how to defeat it. Jonathan graduated from the University of Illinois (BA, political science and history, 1982) and DePaul University College of Law (JD, 1985). He served as an attorney in the Federal Communications Commission during the Reagan administration. A leading constitutional law and litigation expert, he is the author of five critically acclaimed books. He has won more cases against the Food and Drug Administration in federal court than any other attorney in American history, earning him the nickname “FDA Dragon Slayer.” He is a columnist for Townhall.com, PJ Media.com, Americangreatness.com, and the U.S.A. Today Magazine. He frequently appears on national radio and television programs. He is married to Sheryl Emord, and they have two children, twins Justice and Angelica. They reside in Clifton, Virginia.
GOP, Use MAHA or Lose It In this commentary, Tony Lyons argues forcefully that the Republican Party is at a crossroads: embrace the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement — championed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and tied to Donald Trump — or face electoral disaster in 2026. Lyons frames MAHA as the sequel to the MAGA movement, identifying it as a “once-in-a-generation” political gift that can expand the GOP coalition beyond traditional conservative bases by tapping into parents concerned about food safety, medical freedom and chronic-disease prevention. Citing polling data showing high alignment among MAGA parents (81 %) and significant identification among independents and even some Democrats, he warns Republicans they are currently “renting” MAHA voters rather than truly owning them. According to the piece, candidates in Virginia and New Jersey lost ground by neglecting MAHA in their campaigns, thus missing a key segment of the electorate. Lyons highlights specific MAHA policy priorities — improved school-lunch nutrition, chemical-exposure warnings and reform of food-stamp purchases — and contends that congressional Republicans must align with Kennedy’s team at the Department of Health and Human Services or risk being bypassed by Democrats who are already repositioning to court MAHA voters themselves. The tone is urgent, cautioning that rejecting MAHA in favor of traditional corporate donor interests effectively means turning one’s back on “American children and all Americans’ health,” and warns that Republicans ignoring this will suffer politically. The article concludes by urging immediate GOP commitment to MAHA principles as the path to both electoral victory and the task of “Making Americans Healthy Again.”
Dems Urging Troops to ‘Disobey’ Are Playing a Dangerous Game The editorial vehemently criticizes a short video released by Democratic lawmakers—led by Senators Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly and joined by House representatives Chris Deluzio, Maggie Goodlander, Chrissy Houlahan, and Jason Crow—that urges U.S. military and intelligence personnel to challenge or refuse orders they perceive as illegal. In the author’s sharply critical tone, the piece argues that none of the lawmakers presenting the video provide any concrete evidence that the president or chain of command is issuing unlawful directives, meaning the message is more propaganda than serious legal counsel. It contends that the U.S. military already has well-established protocols to vet and reject illicit orders, rendering the political intervention unnecessary and potentially destabilizing. By accusing veterans turned lawmakers of exploiting their service to gain partisan advantage and fund-raise under the guise of patriotism, the piece alleges a reckless erosion of military discipline and chain-of-command norms. The author expresses alarm that ordinary service members—especially those lower in rank—may take the message as permission to defy legitimate commands, a risk the editorial frames as bordering on sedition and national security threats. With strong condemnation, the article ends by declaring the lawmakers’ actions “a disgrace,” warning that stirring distrust within the ranks of the armed forces undermines the very foundation of civilian-military relations in a constitutional republic.
Congress’s Latest “GRAS Reform” Proposal Would Backfire on Innovation The authors from the Alliance for Natural Health USA argue that a recently introduced congressional bill aimed at reforming the “Generally Recognized as Safe” (GRAS) food-ingredient pathway threatens to stifle innovation and disrupt the dietary supplement industry by imposing sweeping regulatory burdens. They assert that the current self-affirmed GRAS system—where manufacturers declare an ingredient safe and may voluntarily notify the Food and Drug Administration—has enabled access to beneficial nutrients and botanicals, and that forcing all existing self-GRAS determinations into mandatory FDA submission would unleash a “regulatory tsunami” that overwhelms the agency and delays access to safe ingredients. The piece criticises key provisions of the bill: the lack of grandfathering for existing ingredients marketed under self-GRAS status, the exclusion of novel compounds from the GRAS pathway, and the requirement that FDA review a fixed number of notifications annually—actions the authors say create uncertainty, elevate compliance costs, and discourage new product development. Written in a cautionary tone, the commentary contends that while transparency is overdue, a hasty overhaul threatens small companies and supplements that often rely on faster pathways to market rather than lengthy pre-approval processes. The authors propose instead a tiered, risk-based reform that preserves the core self-affirmed GRAS model while enhancing public disclosure, creating a GRAS transparency register and differentiating low-risk from high-risk ingredients. They warn that without such a balanced approach, the legislation will hand an advantage to the largest food-chemical manufacturers, shrink the field of innovators and reduce consumer choice in natural health.
The bill to reopen the government would shut down these THC products The article reports that a recently passed federal spending bill—designed to end the longest government shutdown in U.S. history—included a controversial provision banning many hemp-derived THC products, marking a dramatic reversal of the protections afforded under the 2018 Farm Bill. According to the article, the so-called “THC loophole” allowed low-dose intoxicating hemp goods such as edibles, beverages, and tinctures to be sold legally, but the new language overrides this at the federal level and imposes a one-year delay in enforcement before taking effect in late 2026. Supporters of the measure, notably Senator Mitch McConnell, argue the change closes a regulatory gap that allowed businesses to market “intoxicating hemp” with little oversight; critics warn that it will damage a national industry worth an estimated $28 billion, undermine state-level regulation frameworks, and thrust thousands of farmers, processors, retailers and craft brewers into legal uncertainty. The article highlights specific concerns in states like Minnesota and Missouri, where THC seltzer companies have become a growth engine for struggling craft breweries, and notes the tax-revenue implications for programs funded by hemp sales. Industry experts quoted in the piece say this provision was slipped into must-pass legislation with limited debate, giving stakeholders little time to adjust. The article emphasizes that while the new law preserves non-intoxicating CBD and industrial hemp uses, its sweeping reach—and the looming compliance deadline—signals a radical policy shift that may reshape the hemp sector nationwide.
Hour 2
CDC website vaccines autism link reversal The CDC has revised a key webpage on vaccines and autism, softening its long-held stance that vaccines do not cause autism and acknowledging that some studies have not fully ruled out a possible connection. The updated text states that declaring “vaccines do not cause autism” is not an evidence-based claim and suggests research supporting a link has been overlooked by health authorities. The shift comes under Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose history of vaccine skepticism raised concerns during his Senate confirmation, particularly from Sen. Bill Cassidy, who said Kennedy promised not to alter vaccine messaging or remove statements rejecting an autism link. Although the CDC kept the original header asserting vaccines do not cause autism, it added a disclaimer noting the retention was required under an agreement with Cassidy. The revised language also criticizes past CDC work under the Data Quality Act, highlights questions around aluminum adjuvants, and emphasizes that autism’s causes are likely multifactorial. The article further notes Kennedy’s recent softening of claims about Tylenol and autism, while global health agencies reiterate that no causal connection has been established.
Autism and Vaccines | Vaccine Safety | CDC The page outlines that the claim “vaccines do not cause autism” is no longer deemed evidence-based becauseresearch has not definitively ruled out infant vaccines as a possible contributor. It explains that previous CDC assertions lacked full support under the Data Quality Act and that a comprehensive study by U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) is underway to explore biologic mechanisms and potential vaccine-autism links. While large reviews show strong evidence against a link with the MMR vaccine, studies on infant vaccines such as DTaP, HepB, Hib, IPV and PCV remain inconclusive about ruling out risk entirely. The page notes correlations between increased vaccine doses and rising autism prevalence, but stresses correlation is not causation. Investigations continue into factors like aluminum adjuvants, neuroinflammation, mitochondrial disorders and other mechanisms.
Special Guest: Dr.’s Leah and Nick Wilson
Leah Wilson, JD — Executive Director and Co-Founder of Stand for Health Freedom. Attorney, child-welfare advocate, and expert on medical mandates and parental rights. Stand for Health Freedom is currently suing the CDC in a historic case.
Dr. Nick Wilson— Founder of Alignment Training, Restructured Chiropractic and Vitality Metabolics. Author, speaker, and Vitality Strategist focused on natural health, structural alignment, and building human resilience. Co-host of the One Dream Podcast and the Dr. Wilson Radio Show on 93.1 FM in Indianapolis.






